Dear Mr. Byron, I am very sorry to refer to this offensive response, which you imposed. When you are mentioning "toxic salt solution" the impression you are imposing is that you did not complete any course of basic chemistry. What "toxic salt solution" you are speaking about??? The oceans and the seas are full of living plants and a huge multitude of fish, and the fish market is always prosperous. You are proving that you have no idea about agriculture, as agriculture is having special plants which can tolerate highly saline water, please check the internet under the title "salt tolerance of plants". You revealed that you are an atheist, you are totally free in your mental logic, however The Creator did not leave anything behind, natural recycling is fully complete, we fully rely on natural bacteria to generate natural gas out of our organic debris as an example only.
Published by Maher Louis, PE, PEng., Senior Process Engineer at Clairmonte Processes
Dear Mr. Byron,
I am very sorry to refer to this offensive response, which you imposed.
When you are mentioning "toxic salt solution" the impression you are imposing is that you did not complete any course of basic chemistry. What "toxic salt solution" you are speaking about??? The oceans and the seas are full of living plants and a huge multitude of fish, and the fish market is always prosperous.
You are proving that you have no idea about agriculture, as agriculture is having special plants which can tolerate highly saline water, please check the internet under the title "salt tolerance of plants".
You revealed that you are an atheist, you are totally free in your mental logic, however The Creator did not leave anything behind, natural recycling is fully complete, we fully rely on natural bacteria to generate natural gas out of our organic debris as an example only.
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I have a three page answer waiting for you, which discredits your last misdirection of using sweet water marshes for desalination discharge, and it also demonstrates that your technology can in no way fulfill your claims as providing sufficient fresh water for agriculture.
However, I will keep this short, unless you cast any more aspersions on my ability to comprehend the realities of the environmental requirements for agriculture...I assure you that I am well versed on the subject both as an environmental professional having done soil and water sampling for EC in dS/m to derive SAR for decades and as a farmer who fully comprehends the volumes of fresh water required to raise a crop.
But I will say this, and give you a chance to improve your rhetoric or drag this deeper.
You need to either provide credible answers when pertinent questions are asked which challenge your claims, especially when it is clear that your technology can in no possible way produce the volumes required for agriculture, or.... change your claims.
Every single potential client for your technology will ask the exact same questions as I have, and trying to mislead them or saying they should just look it up, will not work whatsoever. You need credible answers that you can substantiate with fact, not your opinion.
Otherwise.....Don't come on a public forum and ask ANYONE for a review if you are unwilling to provide answers.
Published by Mervyn Byron
Dear Mr. Bryon,
Please, please, try to substitute your stubborn attitude which deprive you from understanding, and at the same time it exposes an awfully low mental capacity.
First The Lord is not guiding me, I am a very simple person who could find out that if I imitate what The Lord is doing, I will be able to avail a much more effective process for water desalination for the welfare of a complete human race.
Now, let us start from the beginning in very simple words: Our process of Room Temperature Evaporation generates pure water, and of course there will be a reject of water with higher salinity (this water is not toxic). Recent advances in wastewater treatment followed also by many cities municipalities referred to "Sweetwater Wetlands" which is simply some land which will be accepting this highly saline water and is cultivated by special plants which are tolerant to highly saline water, also some small animals and birds are finding this land as an appropriate habitat.
Please, please try to find out about the facts which I am mentioning to you, instead of exposing more mental tardiness. Please check the internet about "Sweetwater Wetlands" and "salt tolerance of plants" instead of relying on your personal information, which is missing a lot.
Published by Maher Louis, PE, PEng., Senior Process Engineer at Clairmonte Processes
Once again you are using misdirection to hide the truth...and making assumptions about my faith to try and make yourself sound more credible.
I am not an atheist, but I do deplore misdirection, deception and flat out false statements, which you are using to try and promote your technology.
As far as your example of how "Non Toxic salt is" .... The ocean is only roughly 35 parts per thousand of salt or 3.5% by weight. The most extreme saline agriculture has only been successful on a trial basis with saline water below an EC of 10dS/m. And crop yields for cotton, mustard, millet and wheat drop to half once the dS/m reaches 8, which is only roughly 5% salinity.
Once the fresh water is extracted using your technology, that percentage increases dramatically, even at only 11- 13%, no plant life can be sustained.
And since the current saline agriculture is being done using ocean water or underground saline water....what's the point of using your technology...it simply becomes redundant.
Since you propose to extract fresh water from ocean water with your technology, then you are INSTANTLY leaving behind far higher salt solution than can be used on any agriculture.
To any thinking person, when fresh water is extracted from salt water, in any significant quantity, the SAR value of the solution left behind is TOXIC to plant and animal life. To deny that is an out right LIE!
Even with conventional desalination, the discharge is only 50% salt, and it kills coral and marine life, even though it is dispersed into in the ocean and diluted, that would not be the case on land.
This means it must be disposed of...and you are ignoring this fact!
You continue to refuse to answer the pertinent questions about the output of your technology, and it's potential to supply the huge volumes required for agriculture. As I stated, it takes 785,000 m3 to irrigate a 1km dia field of wheat in 90 days and your technology can in no way do that effectively at any scale.
There are only a small percentage of the salt tolerant Halophyte plant species that are edible, and they still cannot endure high concentrations much beyond the salinity of ocean water. So your misdirection that there are many opportunities to create saline agriculture with high concentrations of saline solution left over from your process is untrue!
This leaves you with either irrigating conventional crops with a low salinity, (already available with current ocean water) which by the way builds up in the soils over time, rendering the soil non arable. This has always been the problem with irrigation with any saline water all over the world.
You continue to refuse to answer direct questions about the output capacity of your technology to fulfill your claims. This either means you don't have the answers or are afraid to admit there are great exaggerations in your claims that you can turn desert coastlines into green agriculture with this technology, without any problem of disposal of toxic salt solution.
Either way...you are being deceptive, and claiming the Lord is guiding you does not give you license to be untruthful or sidestep direct questions that would not in any way reveal the inner working of your technology.
What I am asking you is no different than someone asking about the driving range and emissions output of a new car....it's not secret information and it is required if you want to interest anyone in your technology.
However if you are making claims you cannot substantiate....then I can understand why you want to continue to try and divert attention by comparing your faith to mine and making broad statement about saline agriculture, which do not support your concept of how the Toxic saline solution will be disposed of, because it certainly isn't gonna be on crops of any kind.
You can continue to post that you think I am confused and helpless...hahaha...but I'm the only one posting real scientific fact here. You are using misdirection to avoid answering direct questions that reveal you have great problems with your claims.
Published by Mervyn Byron